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Episode: 00299 Released on December 29, 2025 Description: David Jimenez returns to Analyst Talk with Jason Elder five years after his first appearance, this time reflecting on retirement after a long career spanning military intelligence, federal law enforcement, HIDTA work, and higher education. David shares what led to his decision to retire, what he plans to focus on next, and why mentorship remains central to the profession. The conversation explores the evolving role of artificial intelligence in law enforcement analysis, including how analysts can use AI responsibly to enhance efficiency without surrendering judgment or accountability. David also discusses teaching at Penn State, certification trends in analyst hiring, and why analysts should view AI as a colleague rather than a threat. This episode offers perspective, reassurance, and practical insight for analysts at every stage of their career. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking! [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops:   David McClocklin/Bel Pedroza (00:03:17), Todd Bacastow/Greg Thomas/Leanne Sulewski (00:04:22), Charles Giberti/Ole Donner (00:19:51), Debbie Osborne (00:20:50)Public Service Announcements: Related Links: GEOG 885, Analytical Methods and GEOAI Geospatial Intelligence: https://geospatial.psu.edu/geog885 https://geospatial.psu.edu/david-jimenez   Debbie Osborne:  https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/five-ways-llms-can-strengthen-local-crime-analysis-without-osborne-vvhse/?trackingId=IL9fZAbmfQcBdIhE7H8ndw%3D%3D Ole Donner: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/1418927/?highlightedUpdateUrn=urn%3Ali%3AgroupPost%3A1418927-7392547697611763712&q=highlightedFeedForGroupsCharles Giberti: https://www.policechiefmagazine.org/ai-transformation-hiring-to-field/ IAFIE conference is June 1-3 with the Univ of North Georgia (Dahlonega) - "The Convergence of Artificial Intelligence, Cyber, and Intelligence on National Security Interests" https://www.iafie.org/ Past Podcasts:https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/osborne-tapes-online-education-with-david-jimenez/ https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/david-jimenez-the-military-man/ Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimenezd/ Transcript:  https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/qw6xr6us7r2g6nxx/DavidJimenez2_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 Introducing David00:02:00 David Jimenez’s career since 2020 and HIDTA work00:05:00 Teaching, FIAT instruction, and Penn State involvement00:08:00 Deciding to retire and reflections on a long analyst career00:11:00 AI and fears about analyst job replacement00:14:00 Using AI for efficiency, data cleanup, and coding00:18:00 Accountability, validation, and trusting AI outputs00:25:00 Staying competitive through certification and mentorship
 

Episode: 00298 Released on December 22, 2025 Description: In this episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason is joined by Callie Rhoads, a former Florida Department of Law Enforcement analyst with more than 15 years of experience analyzing public corruption and high profile investigations. Callie shares her unconventional path into the law enforcement analysis profession, her work uncovering financial misconduct, and what it was like supporting investigations involving powerful political figures. She walks listeners through major cases including the Broward County Sheriff investigation, the Mark Foley inquiry, the Jim Greer corruption case, and the long running Dozier School for Boys review. This conversation highlights the analyst’s role as a fact finder, the importance of following the money, and the challenges of working cases that attract intense public and media attention. It also offers a rare look at how analysts contribute far beyond the desk, supporting interviews, search warrants, and complex historical investigations. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking! [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops:   Kelly Kimsey (00:08:30 https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-kelly-kimsey-bram-stoker-s-analyst/ ), Rose Davis/Mark Perez/Michelle Pittman (00:10:07), Travis Lawson/Mike O’Connell (00:28:13)Public Service Announcements: Related Links: https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Ken Jenne:  https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna20593197Mark Foley:  https://www.npr.org/2006/10/05/6189173/timeline-the-fall-of-rep-mark-foley Jim Greer:  https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/ex-florida-gop-chairman-jim-greer-gets-sentence-for-stealing/2018319/ Dozier School for Boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_School_for_Boys Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/callie-rhoads-698b30b8/ Transcript:  https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/wbummahsif8ww5a3/CallieRhoads_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 – Introducing Callie00:14:14 – ABS:  Broward County Sheriff Ken Jenne00:27:23 – ABS:  US House of Rep. Mark Foley00:34:54 – ABS:  Republican Party Chair Jim Greer00:45:27 – ABS:  Dozier School for Boys01:13:28 – Decision to Leave LEA01:18:51 – Personal Interest:  Hurricane Michael01:22:55 – Words to the World
 

Episode: 00297 Released on December 15, 2025 Description: In this episode, Jason talks with Matt Sessions, a problem solving tactical advisor and consultant with deep experience in evidence-based policing across the UK. Matt shares how he found his way into problem solving, why logic and curiosity drive effective analysis, and how policing culture can either lift or limit innovation. The conversation explores catalytic converter thefts, underlying causes versus root causes, analyst roles in POP, and the importance of strategic accountability. Matt also discusses his award-winning work, his transition to consulting, and why problem solving succeeds only when analysts and officers work together with intention. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking! [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops:   Public Service Announcements: Steve French (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/steve-french-%e2%80%93-one-compassionate-chap/) Manny San Pedro (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-manny-san-pedro-the-penalty-box-analyst/) Svetlana Gubin (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-svetlana-gubin-the-power-of-math/) 
Related Links: www.cambridge-ebp.co.uk https://popcenter.asu.edu/categories/tilley-awards https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/10439463.2021.2003361#d1e207https://cops.usdoj.gov/pdf/crimeanalysis60steps.pdfhttps://www.radford.edu/humanities-behavioral-sciences/police-practice/stratified-policing.htmlhttps://www.rand.org/pubs/tools/TL261/better-policing-toolkit/all-strategies/problem-oriented-policing.html https://popcenter.asu.edu/content/what-pop Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-sessions-2b646a12a/ Transcript:  https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/bmdnrhpsnrb8ytwz/MattSessions_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 – Introducing Matt00:02:19 – Discovering Problem Solving00:16:31 – Starting During Covid00:23:43 – Catalytic Converter Theft00:43:26 – Break:  French, San Pedro, & Gubin00:45:03 – Neighbourhood Tilley Award00:55:08 – POP Pushback01:09:36 – What if?  POP Czar01:15:30 – Problem Oriented Policing…or Partnerships?01:19:47 – Advise01:27:30 – Words to the World

Episode: 00296 Released on December 8, 2025 Description: Jeff Asher joins Analyst Talk with Jason Elder to unpack what crime trends really tell us and why the public so often gets the story wrong. He shares his journey from CIA analyst to New Orleans crime analyst and consultant, and explains how learning to write clearly and communicate with decision makers shaped his entire career. Jason and Jeff dig into focused deterrence in New Orleans, the response time crisis that left serious victims waiting hours for help, and the data driven changes that followed. They explore how crime trends are framed in the media, why short lived spikes can dominate headlines while long declines are ignored, and what it takes to talk about crime in a way that is honest, specific, and grounded in evidence. Jeff also breaks down the real time crime index, a national level look at crime that helps explain what is happening across the country much faster than traditional reporting. He shares insights from his own show, Jeff-alytics, where he continues conversations about data, crime trends, and the gap between perception and reality. The episode closes with practical advice for analysts on writing, presenting, and getting leadership to actually use their work.
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Name Drops:   Public Service Announcements: Josh Todd (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-josh-todd-the-adirondack-analyst/) Mark Stallo (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/mark-stallo-%e2%80%93-the-visionary/) 
Related Links: https://www.ahdatalytics.com/ https://jasher.substack.com/ https://realtimecrimeindex.com/ https://nola.gov/next/nopd/about/police-bureaus/investigation-support-bureau/ Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-asher-b039a766/ Transcript:  https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/i2w3axjbssht5q8q/JeffAsher_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 – Introducing Jeff00:01:10 – Jeff’s early path into intelligence and CIA experience00:07:00 – Learning to write and communicate as an analyst00:12:00 – Transitioning to New Orleans PD00:17:00 – Focused deterrence explained00:23:00 – Launching his consulting career00:25:30 – ABS:  Response time crisis in New Orleans00:34:13 – Break:  Todd & Stallo00:38:00 – Public perception vs. reality of crime trends00:48:00 – Creating the Real-Time Crime Index00:59:00 – Advice for analysts today01:08:23 – Personal Interest:  Father of Four01:10:27 – Words to the World

Episode: 00295 Released on December 1, 2025 Description: In this episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason sits down with Dr. Andreas “Olli” Olligschlaeger, a pioneer with 35 years of experience in crime analysis, GIS, machine learning, artificial intelligence, and data-driven investigation. Olli shares how a chance academic assignment led him into the Pittsburgh Police Department’s narcotics division, where he built early GIS systems, conducted street-level analysis, and became one of the first to apply neural networks to predictive policing.
He describes his transition to federal analytic work, the evolution of crime-fighting technology, the rise of graph databases, and the challenges of bridging communication gaps among academics, developers, and law enforcement practitioners. Olli also discusses groundbreaking work on human trafficking investigations, large-scale web scraping, facial recognition, and winning third place in the IBM Watson AI for Good XPRIZE. The episode closes with reflections on humility, service, and using your skills to improve your corner of the world. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking! [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops:   Will Gore (00:03:15), Sam Steiner (00:50:39 https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-sam-steiner-the-tenacious-leader/ )Public Service Announcements: Dr. Carlen Orosco (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-carlena-orosco-the-policing-strategist/) Dr. Eric Piza (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-eric-piza-the-researcher-at-heart-analyst/) Sam Gwinn (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/samantha-gwinn-%e2%80%93-the-advocate/) 
Related Links: https://www.policefuturists.org/ https://www.esri.com/en-us/industries/law-enforcement/overview https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/artificial-neural-networks-and-crime-mapping-crime-mapping-and https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~olli/dissertation.html Neo4j: https://neo4j.com/download/ and https://neo4j.comScikit Learn: https://scikit-learn.org/stable/Tensorflow: https://www.tensorflow.org/Tiger Graph:  https://www.tigergraph.com/ AI Xprize:  https://www.xprize.org/competitions/artificial-intelligence Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreasolligschlaeger/ Transcript:  https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/9vvwmwy3x69dcgx9/AndreasOlligschlaeger_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 – Introducing Olli:  Setting a Printer on Fire00:16:43 – PhD00:26:08 – ATF & Society of Police Futurists00:38:07 – Break: Carlena, Eric, & Sam00:40:04 – True North:  Building AI Tools for Prison Phone Calls00:46:03 – Marius Analytics:  Good XPRIZE00:58:26 – I301:06:15 – Advice:  ROI01:06:15 – Personal Interests: Boating & Gaming01:13:42 – Words to the World

Episode: 00294 Released on November 24, 2025 Description: In this episode, Jason Elder sits down with Phil Powell, Vice President of IALEIA, longtime FIAT instructor, international advisor, and one of the most globally experienced intelligence professionals in the field. With more than forty years of service across the United Kingdom, the Balkans, Jamaica, and the United Nations, Phil shares rare insights into building intelligence units from the ground up, applying analytical fundamentals under extreme conditions, and navigating the evolving relationship between technology, artificial intelligence, and human judgment.
Phil reflects on the post conflict environment in Kosovo, the early development of intelligence led policing in the United Kingdom, the rapid rise of analyst capacity in Jamaica, and what it truly takes to create an environment where analysts can succeed. He explains the core traits that endure in the profession, including adaptability, critical thinking, discipline, and clear communication. He emphasizes that even in a world filled with automation, the human analyst remains essential.
Phil also offers practical guidance to new analysts and experienced practitioners, discusses the future direction of IALEIA, and closes with an encouraging message for anyone committed to the growth of the profession. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking! [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops:   David McClocklin (01:05:34)Public Service Announcements: Steve French (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/steve-french-%e2%80%93-one-compassionate-chap/) Shelagh Dorn (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/dr-shelagh-dorn-the-big-picture-analyst/) Brian Gray (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-brian-gray-the-remarkable-analyst/) 
Related Links: https://www.ialeia.org/ https://fiattraining.org/default.aspx?MenuItemID=448&MenuGroup=FIAT+Training https://leiu.org/ https://unmik.unmissions.org/ https://www.moca.gov.jm/ Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  charlespowell@flhsmv.gov; VicePresident@ialeia.org  Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/htnn3ju3ypujw8fu/PhilPowell_transcript.pdf  Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts

Episode: 00293 Released on November 17, 2025 Description: In the fifth installment of Research Remix, Jason Elder and Jamie Roush unpack a 2014 study by Joel Kaplan, Philip Marotta, Eric Piza, and Leslie Kennedy examining whether the physical landscape contributes to felonious assaults and batteries against police officers. Using Chicago Police Department data, the researchers identified how risky facilities such as foreclosures, problem buildings, bars, schools, liquor stores, gang territories, and apartment complexes combine with environmental features like alleyways, poor lighting, and crowd density to elevate officer danger. Jamie explains why these spatial elements matter, how analysts can integrate non-traditional spatial data into proactive officer-safety work, and how dispatchers and CAD systems can benefit from enhanced risk-flagging. The conversation also highlights opportunities for analysts to expand their GIS layers, develop yearly governance on spatial data sources, and build prioritization models that identify the highest-risk locations and times of day. This episode is a practical roadmap for analysts aiming to support officer safety through environmental awareness, spatial modeling, and data-driven risk mitigation. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking!  [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Jamie, Joel, and Eric by listening to their previous episodes: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-jamie-roush-the-aha-moment-analyst/ Dr. Joel Caplan:  https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/acia-risk-terrain-modelling-dr-joel-caplan-teaches-us-everything-we-need-to-know/ Dr. Eric Piza:  https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-eric-piza-the-researcher-at-heart-analyst/ Name Drops:Related Links: https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1193&context=jj_pubs https://www.cpted.net/ https://popcenter.asu.edu/content/understanding-risky-facilities https://www.simplypsychology.org/routine-activities-theory.html Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned: Contact:  jamielroush@gmail.com,  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-roush-5b399967/ epjets@stockton.edu Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/x292indjf8a3t6mm/RR04_transcript.pdf  Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts

Episode: 00292 Released on November 10, 2025 Description: In this episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jennifer Corum shares her remarkable 19 year journey with the Louisville Metro Police Department, including eight years as a crime analyst and her rise to Director of the Real Time Crime Center. From the early days of manually creating compstat maps to leading a 24/7 civilian staffed RTCC, Jennifer discusses how the field has evolved, the lessons she learned building a team from scratch, and how data and critical thinking drive modern policing.
Jennifer also opens up about leading through 2020’s social unrest, balancing motherhood, and surviving non Hodgkin’s lymphoma, a battle that reshaped her perspective on leadership, gratitude, and the unseen strength of caretakers. She highlights the vital role her husband played throughout her recovery, emphasizing how support systems at home and work make resilience possible.
This conversation is as much about courage and community as it is about crime analysis, and a must listen for anyone who believes in the people behind the data. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking! [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops:   Dan Gillespie/Ryan Conrad/Brent Monroe/James Corum (00:07:05)Public Service Announcements: Erin Havelka (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/analyst-talk-erin-havelka-the-intern-turned-mentor-analyst/) Jennifer Scavotto (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/analyst-talk-jennifer-scavotto-from-calls-to-cases-to-command/) Victoria Curtis (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/analyst-talk-victoria-curtis-from-air-force-nerd-to-crime-analyst-intern/) 
Related Links: https://louisville-police.org/ https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications/real-time-crime-centers-guide https://nami.org/Your-Journey/Frontline-Professionals/Law-Enforcement https://lymphoma.org/ Real Crime All The Time Deep Dive:  https://www.leapodcasts.com/?s=real%20crime%20all%20the%20time Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned:Contact:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-c-b0768b117/  Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/vx25j352nkk2vci4/jenniferCorum_transcript.pdf  Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 – Introducing Jennifer00:07:27 – Meeting Husband at Work 00:15:48 – Metro Government00:21:15 – RTCC00:30:43 – Hiring Analysts00:35:27 – Break:  Curtis, Havelka, & Scavotto00:36:55 – First RTCC Story00:45:36 – Critical Incident:  2020 Social Unrest00:55:42 – Advice00:59:46 – Personal Interest:  Motherhood, non Hodgkin’s lymphoma, & Wine01:17:15 – Words to the World

Episode: 00291 Released on November 3, 2025 Description: In the fifth episode of the "Did You Know?" series, Mike Winslow explores the world of hidden data, the overlooked information already sitting in law enforcement systems. From CAD records and field interview cards to modern body-worn camera footage, Mike shares real examples of how uncovering these underused data sources can make or break an investigation. They discuss the importance of collaborating with dispatch, understanding data dictionaries, and asking the right questions to access valuable fields that don’t always make it into analyst databases. Plus, Mike reveals a recent homicide case where tracing a “hidden” phone number led to key suspects and new evidence. This episode highlights how looking beyond reports can reveal investigative gold that many analysts overlook. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking!   [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Mike by listening to his episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/episode-006-mike-winslow-%e2%80%93-the-ambassador/ 
Name Drops: Albert Mesa/Brittany WinslowRelated Links:  https://www.axon.com/ https://www.coronasolutions.com https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/body-worn-cameras All Deep Dive Episodes: https://www.leapodcasts.com/p/deep-dives/ 
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Episode: 00290 Released on October 27, 2025 Description: In this episode of the Research Remix deep dive, Jason Elder and Jamie Roush tackle one of the biggest issues facing law enforcement agencies today: the police staffing crisis. Drawing from recent research by Wilson and Gramme (2024), Jamie reframes the conversation from simply hiring more officers to rethinking workload-based approaches and smarter deployment. Jamie discusses how analysts can play a crucial role in addressing staffing challenges through data-driven workload analysis, understanding calls for service, and calculating net annual work hours to ensure resources meet community demand. From integrating CAD and GIS data to considering new technologies like AI reporting tools and chatbots, this episode explores actionable strategies to make policing more efficient, equitable, and sustainable.
Whether you're an analyst, commander, or researcher, this conversation provides a roadmap to move beyond “do more with less” toward a smarter, systems-based understanding of workforce planning. 🎧 Listen, share, and keep talking!  [Note:  Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Jamie by listening to his episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-jamie-roush-the-aha-moment-analyst/ Name Drops:Related Links: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/9e6umkcnfep4u9a3/Wilson_Grammich_2024_Police_Staffing7ro1t.pdf https://www.policeforum.org/workforcecrisis https://nij.ojp.gov/library/publications Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned: Contact:  jamielroush@gmail.com,  https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-roush-5b399967/ epjets@stockton.edu Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/x292indjf8a3t6mm/RR04_transcript.pdf  Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com  Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com  Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts