Episodes

Monday May 26, 2025
Analyst Talk - Before You Leap - Remember Your Self-Preservation
Monday May 26, 2025
Monday May 26, 2025
Episode: 00268 Released on May 26, 2025 Description: In this eighth installment of the Before You Leap series on Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason Elder and Intelligence Analyst Randy Stickley discuss the personal toll that comes with being deeply invested in law enforcement analysis. From burnout and emotional fatigue to the blurred line between identity and occupation, Randy opens up about his own experiences and lessons learned. Together, Jason and Randy explore the importance of self-preservation, the value of vacation, and how taking a step back can actually make you a better analyst.
🎙️ It’s Memorial Day—hopefully you're taking time to relax, recharge, and honor the meaning of the day while caring for yourself.
🗳️ And a quick reminder for IACA members: Voting is open for the Innovative Ideas motions through May 29, 2025. Make your voice heard and help shape the future of the association! 🧠 Emotional investment ⚖️ Identity vs. role 🌴 Using your vacation time 💬 Fear of failure and burnout 📣 Plus: share your experience with burnout or self-care at LEApodcasts@gmail.com
[Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Randy by listening to his episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-randy-stickley-the-self-promoter/
Name Drops: Related Links: Rethinking Thought https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJ82G1PL/ref=tsm_1_fb_lk ✅ Cast your vote for IACA Innovative Ideas Forum 📣 Encourage your fellow members to vote 🌱 Be part of sparking change in the IACA Ready to vote? 🔗 Innovative Ideas Ballot: https://www.iaca.net/innovative-ideas?servId=11337 Want more context? 🗨️ Innovative Ideas Forum: https://community.iaca.net/discuss/viewcategory/140 🎧 Podcast: Motion Commotion: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/analyst-talk-motion-commotion-voting-to-advance-iaca-s-innovative-ideas/ Let’s make these ideas count. Vote today—and help shape the future of the IACA.
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Contact: randall.c.stickleyii@gmail.com; https://www.linkedin.com/in/randall-stickley-36b0a5109/
Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/mvbnxjmnsdi8egz9/BYL08_transcript.pdf
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Monday May 19, 2025
Analyst Talk - Motion Commotion: Voting to Advance IACA’s Innovative Ideas
Monday May 19, 2025
Monday May 19, 2025
Episode: 00267 Released on May 19, 2025 Description: In this special Leapodcasts Deep Dive, host Jason Elder moderates a timely and thought-provoking panel featuring Mindy Duong, Noah Fritz, and Deb Piehl, centered on the IACA’s brand-new Innovative Ideas Forum. This episode explores the origins of the initiative, outlines the submission and voting process, and examines the motions that could reshape how the association governs, grows, and communicates.
Listeners will get the inside scoop on why this forum was created, how it aligns with IACA’s ongoing bylaws revisions, and what’s at stake with each submitted idea. From member engagement and motion thresholds to international representation and transparency, the panel debates the future of participatory governance in a global association.
The motions now up for vote will only move forward if at least 735 members vote in favor—a 10% threshold of the total membership. That means your vote matters. Even more important: encourage your peers to vote, share the link, and help make this process a success. These motions impact the entire membership, and the future of the IACA depends on active participation.
Whether you're new to the IACA or a longtime member, this episode offers a candid, constructive conversation on organizational evolution, and highlights the importance of creating space for member voices in shaping the future of our profession.
🔗 Explore the forum and vote on ideas: https://community.iaca.net/discuss/viewcategory/140
🗓️ Key Date: Voting Period Starts: Updated to May 21, 2025 Voting Period Ends: Updated to May 29, 2025 at 23:59 CST
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Name Drops: Ritchie Martinez (01:06:55), Mark Stallo/Steve Gottlieb (01:14:22), Dale Harris/Christopher Bruce/Susan Hammen Whitford (01:18:22)Public Service Announcements: Related Links: Innovative Ideas Ballot: Updated to https://www.iaca.net/innovative-ideas IACA Innovative Ideas Forum: https://community.iaca.net/discuss/viewcategory/140 Association(s) Mentioned: IACAVendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/nhhrmg7ike2aghff/IACAinnovativeIdeas2025_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:17 – Introduction00:02:00 – Background on the New Process Jason outlines the rationale behind the forum, how the initiative came about, and how members can participate.00:03:36 – Member Spotlight: Noah’s Role in Sparking the Forum Noah Fritz discusses his original inquiry to the Board and his first motion challenging the 10% voting threshold.00:08:34 – Optimism and Early Feedback Mindy and Jason reflect on the need for a longer timeline and improved visibility for future forums.00:10:54 – Member Engagement and Apathy Noah discusses voter turnout issues and the importance of consistent outreach and visibility.00:13:26 – Deb Piehl Joins & Shares Initial Thoughts Deb offers perspective on innovation, governance complexity, and the importance of intentional feedback structures.00:15:53 – Motion: Improve Motion Process (Not on the ballot. The process was reviewed and found not to conflict with the bylaws.) Noah proposes the development of a new online motion process, arguing that the current system conflicts with the IACA’s bylaws and established practices.00:16:10 – Motion: Creating a Working Group to Review the Current State of Affairs (Idea 7 on the ballot) Noah presents his second motion calling for a research-based member working group to evaluate member’s values and opinions.00:24:33 – Motion: Feedback Before Rule Changes (Idea 13 on the ballot) Jason introduces his motion advocating for a formal process allowing member feedback before new rules take effect.00:34:48 – Motion: International and Regional Access (Idea 3 & 5 on the ballot) Mindy summarizes five motions submitted by John Anteyi, covering exam pricing, global access, and leadership development.00:41:24 – Motion: Information Sharing and Transparency (Idea 12 on the ballot) Jason and panelists discuss the need for a member-accessible library of official documents and better communication.00:50:48 – Motion: First-Timer Buddy System (Idea 9 on the ballot) Mindy shares her motion to connect first-time conference attendees with returning members through a buddy program.00:56:42 – Motion: Open Committee Meetings (Idea 11 on the ballot) Jason advocates for allowing members to observe committee meetings to increase transparency and involvement.00:01:02:36 – Motion: Restructuring the IACA (Idea 8 on the ballot) Noah presents his proposal for a working group to examine governance reforms, representation, and paid staff positions.01:08:15 – Encouraging New Voices Mindy raises the concern of avoiding “usual suspects” and ensuring new and diverse voices are included in leadership efforts.01:13:58 - Motion: IACA Lifetime Achievement Webpage. (Idea 10 on the ballot) Jason presents his proposal for the creation of a webpage dedicated to the Lifetime Achievement Award process and recipients.

Monday May 12, 2025
Analyst Talk - Michael Herb - The Make-A-Wish Analyst
Monday May 12, 2025
Monday May 12, 2025
Episode: 00266 Released on May 12, 2025 Description: Michael Herb brings nearly two decades of law enforcement experience to this episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder. After a life-changing Make-A-Wish trip to the FBI Academy as a teenager, Michael’s path took him from patrol officer in Houston to crime analyst, administrator, and eventually director of the Northeast Ohio Regional Fusion Center. He recounts the challenges of uniting 58 police departments under one crime data system and shares insights from his current role as Cleveland’s Senior Strategist for Public Safety. Michael also discusses his pursuit of a PhD in public health, his research into the opioid epidemic, and how public health perspectives can reshape the way crime and addiction are understood. This episode offers a candid look at professional growth, public service, and the evolving role of analysis in public safety. Tune in for a thoughtful, inspiring look at the intersection of analysis, leadership, and lifelong learning. [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]
Name Drops: Sean Bair (00:09:45)Public Service Announcements: Erin Wickersham (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-erin-wickersham-the-saucy-analyst/) Patrick Baldwin (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/patrick-baldwin-snake-bit-by-technology/) Related Links: https://www.clevelandohio.gov/city-hall/office-mayor/urban-ai https://neorfc.cuyahogacounty.gov/Home https://geospatial.gis.cuyahogacounty.gov/pages/data https://www.houstontx.gov/police/divisions/command_center/index.htm
IACA Innovative Ideas Forum: https://community.iaca.net/discuss/viewcategory/140 Association(s) Mentioned: IACAVendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-herb-0497b144/ Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/w7ggw99eirpiwbs2/MikeHerb_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:01 – IACA Innovative Ideas Forum00:01:27 – Introducing Michael00:12:40 – Sworn Analyst Then Civilian Analyst00:18:47 – Sheriff’s Administrator 00:19:50 – ABS: Data Sharing - 58 to 100:32:48 – Break: Erin Wickersham & Patrick Baldwin00:33:45 – Northeast Ohio Regional Fusion Center00:40:14 – Senior Strategist for Public Safety00:51:27 – IACA00:56:33 – Advice00:58:53 – PhD01:07:08 – Words to the World

Monday May 05, 2025
Analyst Talk - Ashley Wells - Cold Cases, Certifications, and Career Growth
Monday May 05, 2025
Monday May 05, 2025
Episode: 00265 Released on May 5, 2025 Description: In this episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason sits down with Ashley Wells, a seasoned analyst from the Manatee County Sheriff's Office with over a decade of experience. Ashley shares her unique entry into the field, including how she helped rebuild an entire crime analysis unit from the ground up. From tracking down vehicle burglary series to unraveling multistate identity fraud rings, Ashley discusses the investigative tactics that shaped her career. She also opens up about her passion for cold case work, her shift to intelligence analysis, and her experience running for IACA office. Plus, she reflects on preparing for the IALEIA certification exam and her commitment to continuous learning. Don’t miss the listener call-in segment on favorite first jobs—fudge counters, Big Macs, and snake-eating survival instructors included! [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]
This episode includes a call-in segment: Favorite First Jobs.
Nicole McKendree (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-nicole-mckendree-three-things/) Josh Todd (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-josh-todd-the-adirondack-analyst/) Akiko McClain (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-akiko-mcclain-exclamation-points-are-the-answer/) Steve Bennett (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-steve-bennett-the-counter-drug-cliffhanger/) Neil Hubert (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/neil-hubbert-guiding-decision-makers/v)
Name Drops: Amber Hoffman/Elicia Main (0:04:36), Steve Gottlieb (0:50:02)Public Service Announcements: Amanda Wiggins (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-amanda-wiggins-the-difference-maker/) Mandy Krueger (https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-mandy-krueger-learned-probably-by-failure/) Related Links: www.manateesheriff.com https://www.ialeia.org/certification_process.php https://www.fdle.state.fl.us/Analyst-Academy/Programs/FLEAA https://www.alphagroupcenter.com/about-us/certificate-program/
IACA Innovative Ideas Forum: https://community.iaca.net/discuss/viewcategory/140 Association(s) Mentioned: IALEIA, IACAVendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashley-wells-307350136/ Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/f74jsmx6i27cbdrg/AshleyWells_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts
00:00:01 – IACA Innovative Ideas Forum00:01:27 – Introducing Ashley00:10:51 – ABS: Vehicle Burglary00:16:00 – ABS: Felony Lane 00:31:50 – Break: Amanda Wiggins & Mandy Krueger00:32:39 – Running for IACA’s VP of Admin00:38:11 – IALEIA Conference and Certification00:46:00 – Advice00:48:56 – Favorite First Jobs01:00:18 – Words to the World

Monday Apr 28, 2025
Monday Apr 28, 2025
Episode: 00264 Released on April 28, 2025 Description: In this powerful episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason welcomes back David Cariens, retired CIA analyst, author, and longtime advocate for truth and accountability after mass shootings. David discusses his new book, Outrageous: Investigating Mass Shootings, which draws from his deeply personal and professional experiences analyzing the aftermath of tragedies in Virginia. From the first-hand loss of a family member to working on the Governor’s Commission, David shares eye-opening insights on systemic failures, the patterns that emerge after mass shootings, and the need for fearless, analytical investigations. Proceeds from his book support charities in memory of the victims.Listen in as David offers a no-holds-barred look at why institutional protection often stands in the way of justice—and how true analysis can make a difference.Learn more about David's work and book at davecariens.com. [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about David by listening to his episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-david-cariens-the-analysis-writer/ Name Drops:Related Links: davecariens.comBook on Amazonwww.aquestionofaccountability.comwww.aquestionofaccountability.blogspot.comAssociation(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: dcariens@gmail.com Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/w84aewhihee64f5e/DavidCariensOutrageous_Transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts

Monday Apr 21, 2025
Analyst Talk - Did You Know With Mike Winslow - Expand Your Role
Monday Apr 21, 2025
Monday Apr 21, 2025
Episode: 00263 Released on April 21, 2025 Description: In the fourth episode of the "Did You Know?" series, Mike Winslow explores how analysts can build their reputation and become a go-to resource in their departments. From breaking out of your shell to forming key relationships, Mike shares practical advice for marketing yourself internally, whether you’re brand new or seeking to expand your role. He and Jason also unpack the importance of feedback, reputation, and even finding common ground—like fantasy football or video games—to forge connections. If you’ve ever felt overlooked in your agency, this episode is your playbook for stepping into the spotlight. [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Mike by listening to his episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/episode-006-mike-winslow-%e2%80%93-the-ambassador/
Name Drops: Damien WilliamsRelated Links: Association(s) Mentioned: Vendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: mwinslow@scottsdaleaz.gov; https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikewinslow1414/ Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/mpx9ithnw6ti7bd4/DYK04_transcripts.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts

Monday Apr 14, 2025
Analyst Talk - Research Remix - Dr. Nusret Sahin and the EPJETS
Monday Apr 14, 2025
Monday Apr 14, 2025
Episode: 00262 Released on April 14, 2025 Description: In the third episode of the Research Remix series, Jason and Jamie welcome Dr. Nusret Sahin to discuss the EPJETS project—Enhancing Procedural Justness of Encounters Through Substantiation. Dr. Sahin shares how his team used procedural justice, randomized control trials, and body-worn camera access to improve police-citizen interactions during traffic stops. From building trust with officers and communities to leveraging crash data and AI tools, this episode explores how analysis can inform practice and promote transparency in law enforcement. Tune in to hear the data-driven strategies that made a measurable difference in public trust and officer professionalism. [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Jamie by listening to his episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-jamie-roush-the-aha-moment-analyst/ Name Drops:Related Links: https://epjets.org/
https://nij.ojp.gov/funding/awards/15pnij-21-gg-02718-ress
https://www.njspotlightnews.org/video/study-transparent-police-practices-improve-community-trust/
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/stockton-university-police-traffic-stop-interaction-study/
https://stockton.edu/news/2024/epjets-results.html
https://www.nj.com/atlantic/2024/06/been-pulled-over-in-nj-it-may-have-been-part-of-study-meant-to-improve-traffic-stops.html
https://www.researchwithrutgers.com/en/publications/the-impact-of-procedurally-just-policing-on-citizen-perceptions-o
https://simsi.com/engage/
https://simsi.com/procedural-justice-cert/
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w29019/w29019.pdf
Upcoming Conferences:American Society of Evidence-Based Policing https://americansebp.org/events/115213 American Society of Criminology https://asc41.org/events/asc-annual-meeting/
Association(s) Mentioned: IACPVendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: jamielroush@gmail.com, https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-roush-5b399967/ epjets@stockton.edu Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/vjenzc3u7ipwkbuu/RR03_transcript.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts

Monday Apr 07, 2025
Monday Apr 07, 2025
Episode: 00261 Released on April 7, 2025 Description: In this week’s episode of Analysts Talk with Jason Elder, we continue the deep dive segment Real Crime All The Time as Nikki North discusses the “Big Brother” perception surrounding real-time crime centers. They discuss how transparency, community outreach, and smart public relations can reduce suspicion and increase public trust. Nikki shares practical tips on internal and external communication, giving tours, handling public records requests, and demystifying surveillance technology. The conversation also explores how misconceptions from pop culture and media influence public opinion—and how analysts can take back the narrative. Plus, hear the latest updates on the Southeast Regional Real-Time Crime Center Conference, including dates, location, and planned tours.
Whether you're new to real-time crime centers or looking to refine your public messaging, this episode is full of honest insight and practical advice. [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]Name Drops: Related Links: https://nrtcca.org/Association(s) Mentioned: National Real Time Crime Center AssociationVendor(s) Mentioned: Contact: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikki-north-196377239/, nnorth@flaglersheriff.com; nnorth@nrtcca.org Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/p7jze9bbpfrh9uav/RCATT02_Transcripts.pdf Podcast Writer: Podcast Researcher: Theme Song: Written and Recorded by The Rough & Tumble. Find more of their music at www.theroughandtumble.com.Logo: Designed by Kyle McMullen. Please visit www.moderntype.com for any printable business forms and planners. Podcast Email: leapodcasts@gmail.com Podcast Webpage: www.leapodcasts.com Podcast Twitter: @leapodcasts

Monday Mar 31, 2025
Analyst Talk - Catching Up With Dawn - Office Fights & Analyst Insights
Monday Mar 31, 2025
Monday Mar 31, 2025
Episode: 00260 Released on March 31, 2025 Description: In this episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason reconnects with returning guest Dawn Reeby to tackle a topic every law enforcement analyst will face sooner or later: handling disagreements in the office. From clashing personalities to miscommunications, Dawn shares practical strategies for resolving workplace conflict before it spirals into something bigger. They explore how to recognize emotional triggers, set healthy boundaries, and use the framework of Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People to communicate with empathy and clarity. Whether it’s dealing with difficult coworkers, misunderstandings over data, or just learning how to read the room better, this conversation is packed with relatable insights and actionable takeaways.Join us for a thoughtful discussion about turning office tension into an opportunity for growth and collaboration. [Note: Description produced by ChatGPT.]Get to know more about Dawn by listening to her episode on Analyst Talk With Jason Elder: https://www.leapodcasts.com/e/atwje-dawn-reeby-the-ceo-analyst/
*** Episode 7 Analysis - IACA Conference Preview - Rethinking Thought https://youtu.be/YC_b8GWofDk ***
Name Drops:Related Links: https://www.franklincovey.com/courses/the-7-habits/ https://www.amazon.com/Habits-Highly-Effective-People-Powerful/dp/0743269519 https://www.amazon.com/Difference-Blitzscaling-Millionaire-Principles-Collection/dp/9124201537 Association(s) Mentioned:
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Contact: reach me at Dawn@excellenceinanalytics.com, https://www.linkedin.com/in/dawnreeby/
Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/t4tku8zr3h8jqrpm/CUWD03_transcript.pdf
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Friday Mar 28, 2025
CCAA Conference 2025 Reactions: Keynote Reflections & Analyst Perspectives
Friday Mar 28, 2025
Friday Mar 28, 2025
In this special episode of Analyst Talk with Jason Elder, Jason returns from the 2025 Carolina Crime Analysis Association (CCAA) Conference, where he served as keynote speaker. Jason shares his behind-the-scenes reflections on the experience, offers a summary of his keynote address, and introduces a unique “wrap-up rap” collaboration that closed out his presentation.
But that’s just the beginning — this episode also features conversations with a wide range of attendees, including analysts, students, supervisors, and board members. Hear firsthand what they learned, what inspired them, and why the CCAA conference is making waves across the Carolinas. From soft skills to technical takeaways, networking highlights to unforgettable moments (yes, including a perfectly timed cannonball pun), this episode captures the heart and soul of CCAA 2025.
Stay tuned until the very end to hear what might be the first-ever crime analysis rap, created and performed by Michael Jackson of Sugarland, Texas. [Note: Description created by ChatGPT.]
Reactions from Amanda Bruner, Damien Willliams, Kassie Langdon, Kimberly Cummings, Xucati Griffin, Danny Martin, Daniel Miller, Spechel Mitchell, Andrew Reece, Michele Covington, and Cannon Fulmer
Conference: https://www.carolinascrimeanalysis.org/event-5951047 Transcript: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/s9m898uczzj7b4gk/CCAA2025reactions_transcript.pdf






